

Review: Very good system that does solve a problem - Lippage. Now I know what it means. Didn't know before, and I had done tile in the past-- and that method needs to be left there. So I have installed floor tile and wall tile with varying results. the biggest issue always persists is that the edges never quite line up as they should. You can get close... but I am just not that good and I always have a learning curve between projects as it seems years between them. This time around was wall tile. 18x6 and a whole lot of them. The walls were done correctly, but my God--- nothing is every right as I have found out before. In this case it was no different, but using this system made all the difference. At first it was like riding a bike--- took a few tries and had to think it through, but once you get rocking along... it is fast and four things happen..... First the spacing is consistent as long as your tiles are. I had a few trouble ones, but that is the nature of the beast. Overall (99%) of the time it was 3mm (1/8") as expected. Second is flatness. The ramps are stiff and are strong--- so it definitely pulls the tiles flat. That is the key-- everything is flat. Run your hand over it, put a straight edge on it flat. Bliss. Third, you will run out of spacers faster than you think, so buy plenty. Forth thing that happens goes along with the spacers, you will also run short of the ramps if you intend to go further than you thought.....that is how I found out both of those things. So in the end, the kit worked great and out of 800 clips--- 1 broke during install otherwise it was slip, set, click, go. Again, it made what was normally a tough job to make everything level....a much easier job to make it level without a doubt. Would I use it again? Yes. It actually made the job much more pleasurable than it had been in the past. I can say someone that is an expert in the field will be able to do a great job without them...but I would never attempt another tile job without having them as they are that helpful. As far as thinset mortar--- started out with whatever HD sells premixed...and was complete garbage. Ended up heading to Lowe's and trying Mapei brand....so much better. Used the premixed to save myself from one more step, but between it and the spacers--- the job came out great! Review: Great product for the DIYer - Before purchasing Peygran Tile Leveling System I did my research. I have done tiling projects before but I have always used the little + shaped spacers which I found difficult to use and hard to remove one the tiling was done. In addition, I typically had to remove tiles during the process to either add or remove thinset so I could have a level floor. The Peygran system made the entire project much easier. My project was a fairly large one in an L shaped kitchen. Once I laid out my reference line and laid a few tiles, I was able to complete the job faster because I was confident the tiles were level (after checking from time to time). so I could move on to the next tile, or row of tiles more quickly. Using the Peygran system not only kept the tiles level but, as you can see from the photos, the system kept the grout lines were very straight over a distance of 14 ft. and around the L shaped kitchen. Also, if you follow the directions, and watch a few YouTube videos before starting there is no removing tile to add or remove thinset. Removing the leveling system was also faster, instead of trying to get those small spacers out of the grout lines you just hit the tabs and wedges with a rubber mallet, or kick them off with your foot and sweep them up. All very quick! This is definitely more expensive that the old + shaped spacers but the time savings was worth it in my opinion. Overall, I am very satisfied with this purchase as a DIYer, but professionals may want the more beefier products out there with larger clips and wedges because they will be used more frequently.
| Manufacturer | Industrias Peygran |
| Part Number | SUPERKIT 1/8 |
| Item Weight | 8.32 pounds |
| Package Dimensions | 12.99 x 9.69 x 8.11 inches |
| Item model number | SUPERKIT1/8 |
| Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
| Size | 1/8" (3mm) |
| Batteries Included? | No |
| Batteries Required? | No |
T**T
Very good system that does solve a problem
Lippage. Now I know what it means. Didn't know before, and I had done tile in the past-- and that method needs to be left there. So I have installed floor tile and wall tile with varying results. the biggest issue always persists is that the edges never quite line up as they should. You can get close... but I am just not that good and I always have a learning curve between projects as it seems years between them. This time around was wall tile. 18x6 and a whole lot of them. The walls were done correctly, but my God--- nothing is every right as I have found out before. In this case it was no different, but using this system made all the difference. At first it was like riding a bike--- took a few tries and had to think it through, but once you get rocking along... it is fast and four things happen..... First the spacing is consistent as long as your tiles are. I had a few trouble ones, but that is the nature of the beast. Overall (99%) of the time it was 3mm (1/8") as expected. Second is flatness. The ramps are stiff and are strong--- so it definitely pulls the tiles flat. That is the key-- everything is flat. Run your hand over it, put a straight edge on it flat. Bliss. Third, you will run out of spacers faster than you think, so buy plenty. Forth thing that happens goes along with the spacers, you will also run short of the ramps if you intend to go further than you thought.....that is how I found out both of those things. So in the end, the kit worked great and out of 800 clips--- 1 broke during install otherwise it was slip, set, click, go. Again, it made what was normally a tough job to make everything level....a much easier job to make it level without a doubt. Would I use it again? Yes. It actually made the job much more pleasurable than it had been in the past. I can say someone that is an expert in the field will be able to do a great job without them...but I would never attempt another tile job without having them as they are that helpful. As far as thinset mortar--- started out with whatever HD sells premixed...and was complete garbage. Ended up heading to Lowe's and trying Mapei brand....so much better. Used the premixed to save myself from one more step, but between it and the spacers--- the job came out great!
D**.
Great product for the DIYer
Before purchasing Peygran Tile Leveling System I did my research. I have done tiling projects before but I have always used the little + shaped spacers which I found difficult to use and hard to remove one the tiling was done. In addition, I typically had to remove tiles during the process to either add or remove thinset so I could have a level floor. The Peygran system made the entire project much easier. My project was a fairly large one in an L shaped kitchen. Once I laid out my reference line and laid a few tiles, I was able to complete the job faster because I was confident the tiles were level (after checking from time to time). so I could move on to the next tile, or row of tiles more quickly. Using the Peygran system not only kept the tiles level but, as you can see from the photos, the system kept the grout lines were very straight over a distance of 14 ft. and around the L shaped kitchen. Also, if you follow the directions, and watch a few YouTube videos before starting there is no removing tile to add or remove thinset. Removing the leveling system was also faster, instead of trying to get those small spacers out of the grout lines you just hit the tabs and wedges with a rubber mallet, or kick them off with your foot and sweep them up. All very quick! This is definitely more expensive that the old + shaped spacers but the time savings was worth it in my opinion. Overall, I am very satisfied with this purchase as a DIYer, but professionals may want the more beefier products out there with larger clips and wedges because they will be used more frequently.
D**M
Peygran leveling is a great slippage killer
As a former user of Tuscan Seam-clips, this is a superior system. I weighed all the other options and looked at reviews and concluded this might be the best to try. All the wedge-like systems seems expensive, but I went this route because the kits are fully inclusive: clips, wedges and pliers all included. I was impressed that using their system on a modest 40 sq ft bathroom floor (24x24 tiles, 3/8" porcelain) led to NO premature breakage of a clip. Even when I metered down the pliers to get a little more squeeze, no breakage. I learned why when the following day I malleted them and found that several clips didn't break completely. Noted by others, it was annoying to remove them manually. I think part of the prob was too much mortar too close to the grout lines. The break-inset on the clip should have been apparent. I also noticed occasionally tiles moved apart on squeezing the pliers. I think this was also a too much mortar flag. Also, pushing the wedges into the clip if not with sufficient power, left the wedge-clip distance on the pliers too big. Fix? Just push them further into the clip. Duh... Overall, a great system giving me less lippage than with Seamclips. I might also give the ergonomic pliers a look since they look a bit sturdier. If the spacing accommodates a bigger wedge-clip tolerance, it would be worth it.
K**H
Worked well for a rookie like me. Installed about 112 square feet of 6" ...
Worked well for a rookie like me. Installed about 112 square feet of 6" x 24" wood look porcelain tile and it came out great. Virtually no lippage at all throughout the whole installation. Follow the directions and tap each tile with a mallet after cinching down the wedges into the clips. Had to buy some extra clips (which are a little expensive) for the job but the results made it worth the money in my opinion.
J**G
Great
Great product and good transaction
B**S
Best leveling system ever.
Totally awesome product. 20 years setting tile and other floor coverings, and this product is the best thing I have used over that period of time. Super flat floors with ease is what you end up with. Once you figure out the system and get use to using it, you can fly through a big floor. It takes a bit to get use to using the system and how to incorporate into how a setter flows. I ended up keeping the system in the bucket it came in, in front of me on top the tiles I just set with my Thinset and water/sponge buckets behind me like I normally would. First 5 or 10 tiles I was like man this sucks, slowing me down compared to how I would normally set. But then it clicked... I figured out the flow and soon started noticing the lack of any lippage, like completely flat. I was blown away by the speed, ease and results with this product. I have used it on 3 different large format jobs and will continue using it from here on.
N**R
Prevents Lippage But Struggles With Consistent Grout Lines on Very Large Tiles
The positive - the system does indeed prevent lippage. All tiles end up flat against each other. Moreover, I had two dips in my floor of around 1/8" and this system fixed that. The negative - As others have written, with large and heavy tiles this system really struggles to maintain consistent grout lines. It can pull smaller tiles together properly but I was working with large, thick, very heavy tiles (20"+) and they hardly budged (most not at all). Smaller tiles moved very easily with this system and created great grout lines. This system just cannot fight the suction and weight created by large and heavy tiles like T-Lock can. If you have really thick, heavy, big tiles like I had, you will need to put an insane amount of spacers along the edge and then use your own elbow grease to ensure the grout lines are consistent or use T-Lock or Rubi. which really can work with the largest tiles. Moreover, I had rectified tiles from a very high-quality manufacturer so I know the issue wasn't the tile itself.
D**S
Did exactly what they claim and worked very well on large format tiles.
The system did a good job of leveling my tiles while setting them, especially with the larger format tiles that are popular right now. I don't think I would do tile work without them again.
W**.
Durable clips with lots of flex.
Great product. Other systems Iโve used have brittle clips and break under tension or from bending in the bag etc... Breaking a clip while adding tension is a huge pain in the ass that requires lifting the tile the replace the clip. Iโve used hundreds of Peygran clips without failure! Buy this system. It works great. 2mm for walls, 3mm for floors.
A**B
Excellent product, amazing results
Excellent product, had no lippage anywhere once all was done. Best part is the clips break easily and cleanly, I have used products in the past where I had to go back with a knife and clean some of the clips that did not break well but these ones broke off perfectly and were invisible.
D**1
Costly but worth it!
I like everything about these clips, I could never believe how I got along without them for so long. They work perfectly! Other than the price and having to buy new spacers for every application, these are the best I've ever used.
R**S
Perfect job every time!! Although a bit pricey
Easy to use! Makes tile job perfect!! +++ expensive. Not sure if itโs $$ this site or just this particular product
Y**K
It did the job but
Generally speaking, it worked. However, I found two drawbacks. Wedges smell bad, really bad. It was so bad that I had to wear a face mask with a charcoal filter not to deal with the smell so strong it was. Once the bucket is opened there is a super-strong plastic smell ("cancer smell") which quickly spread around the house. Spacers suppose to be 2mm. In reality, the range of spacer thickness lies between 1.67 to 2.07 millimeters. I worked with 6x36inch tiles. You can notice the seam between tiles is uneven if you managed to place a thin 1.7mm spacer on one end of a tile and 2.05mm thick one on the other and the next tile starts with another 1.7mm spacer. The solution was to take a caliper and measure/sort ALL spacers by their thickness and then use them this way. I ended up with some seams to be 1.7mm, some 1.8mm, and so on up to 2.05mm wide ones. For my project, it wasn't affected the final results but it cost me an extra couple of hours for sorting.
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